Sunday, October 11, 2009
Taliban I Told You So
I'm not going to make you read the same posts I've been putting up for years (see end of post); however, I will have you look at these for proper background.
See: Pashtun History Lesson
Pashtun Hospitality
Afghans Need Taliban Return
Yeah, keep that last one in mind to understand the underlying dynamics here, cui bono?
Now that the war criminal administration in Washington (yes, being run by a different man) is looking at a "shift" in policy we get this.
"Afghan insurgency not fueled by religion; US intelligence says fighters vie for wealth" by Bryan Bender, Globe Staff | October 9, 2009
WASHINGTON - Nearly all of the insurgents battling US and NATO troops in Afghanistan are not religiously motivated Taliban and Al Qaeda warriors, but a new generation of tribal fighters vying for control of territory, mineral wealth, and smuggling routes, according to summaries of new US intelligence reports.
Well, it is only THEIR LAND! What right do THEY HAVE to its RESOURCES when it comes to what the USraeli Empire wants?
Some of the major insurgent groups, including one responsible for a spate of recent American casualties, actually opposed the Taliban’s harsh Islamic government in Afghanistan during the 1990s, according to the reports, described by US officials under the condition they not be identified.
Who could those guys be?:
Slow Saturday Special: AmeriKa's Mass Grave in Afghanistan
Oh, btw, this was the right-corner, front-page feature of the day as Obama does a crossover dribble on the war.
“Ninety percent is a tribal, localized insurgency,’’ said one US intelligence official in Washington who helped draft the assessments. “Ten percent are hardcore ideologues fighting for the Taliban.’’
So NOW YOU KNOW the PERCENTAGE of CIA AGENTS working the area.
What HURST IS this is JUST THE THING I'VE BEEN SAYING about "those people" up in the hills that are being run out of their homes into squalid refugee camps as winter comes and are COMPLETELY INNOCENT of what they are accused of, an abomination of a lie known as 9/11, and I've been SAYING IT FOR YEARS and it JUST GETS WORSE and I'M RAMBLING NOW because I'm UPSET that this will just FADE AWAY for the net propaganda piece that will conflate Taliban and "Al-CIA-Duh."
What I WOULD LIKE TO CONVEY to the Pashtun people if any happen to cross here is that, having FAILED to STOP this BUTCHERING, MASS-MURDERING, WAR CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT is that I'M SORRY!!!! That is SO LAME compared to what you are enduring but its all I have!! I'M SO, SO SORRY!!!!!
US commanders and politicians often loosely refer to the enemy as the Taliban or Al Qaeda, giving rise to the image of holy warriors seeking to spread a fundamentalist form of Islam.
Oh, yeah, it is JUST the military and politicians, MSM!
You guys are incredibly insulting, do you know that?
But the mostly ethnic Pashtun fighters are often deeply connected by family and social ties to the valleys and mountains where they are fighting, and they see themselves as opposing the United States because it is an occupying power, the officials and analysts said.
There go the faucets from the eyes again!
The nonreligious motivations give American war planners some hope that they can reduce the power of these militias, and perhaps even co-opt their support with a new set of strategies and incentives.
Oh, you mean like LEAVING THEM ALONE?!!!!!
Like APOLOGIZING PROFUSELY TO THEM UPON LEAVING, in fact DROPPING TO OUR KNEES and BEGGING OUR FORGIVENESS for INCINERATING THEM in a FIREBALL!!!!!?????????
Related: The Firebombing of Farah
The Farah Fatalities
What is a Dead Afghan Baby Worth?
We could never apologize enough, and money.... that LOVED ONE is NEVER COMING BACK!!!!?
Although don't get me wrong: THEY GET FULL REPARATIONS from the UNITED STATES of AMERIKA! Time to HACK OFF a PIECE of that BLOATED, MASS-MURDERING MILITARY MACHINE and GIVE IT TO the Pashtuns NO QUESTIONS ASKED!!!!!!
The Afghan fighters use the threat of force to further their own economic interests....
Yeah, GOOD THING USrael never does s*** like that!
Yeah, F*** YOU and your INSULTS, Glob!!!!!!
“That doesn’t sound like someone who wants to create a global caliphate,’’ said Arturo Munoz, who retired earlier this year after a 30-year career as a CIA analyst and case officer and is now a senior political scientist at the government-funded Rand Corporation. “There is a completely homegrown Pashtun tradition of Jihad, which is different from radical [followers of the Taliban] and goes back centuries. We are just the latest foreign invader.’’
Yup, WE DIDN'T LEARN from what WE DID to the SOVIETS!
See: U.S. Training Terrorists in Nevada
The new intelligence analyses were requested by military commanders earlier this year with the hopes of identifying who might be open to accommodation....
So after SETTING UP the TALIBAN in power and then overthrowing them, the LAST EIGHT+ YEARS have been for NOTHING?
Just a LOT of DEAD PEOPLE, MAIMED PEOPLE, PSYCHOLOGICALLY-DAMAGED PEOPLE, DESTRUCTION, and WAR and DRUG LOOT made, huh? That's SUCCESS, 'eh?
See WHAT OUR CHILDREN ARE DYING FOR IN AFGHANISTAN
Those NATO/COALITION TROOPS looking on there? Looks as if they are guarding the damn things, doesn't it?
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Indeed, the intelligence reports say the Taliban movement that harbored the Al Qaeda terrorist network before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks is responsible for only a small share of the rising attacks - mostly in southern Afghanistan, according to the officials.
“The term [Taliban] has come to have a meaning far beyond what the United States should care about’’ militarily, said Frederick W. Kagan, a resident scholar at the conservative American Enterprise Institute who is advising US military commanders.
Yeah, KEEP THAT NEO-CON CLOWN in mind, readers.
Yup, the DEMOCRAT'S NEO-CON!!!!
He added: “The one that most threatens our effort in Afghanistan is the Taliban group that is based out of Quetta in Pakistan. It is headed by Mullah [Mohammed] Omar, who was the former head of the Taliban government in Afghanistan . . . and his former cronies in that government.’’
That also explains the MSM focus on that guy lately!!!
He already gave you a history lesson.
The long-term strategy must include an effort by the Afghan government to “reintegrate’’ many insurgents into society, an enormously complex task that requires much greater effort than just more troops, according to government advisers and private specialists.
The recent assessment by General Stanley A. McChrystal, the top US commander in Afghanistan, outlined the connections between insurgent groups and the original Taliban leadership that fled to Pakistan. It also raises prospects for reconciliation with some of them. For example, two major insurgent groups are believed to have allied with the Taliban to protect their sphere of influence, not to wage a holy war against the West.
The Taliban often help train local militias, but in exchange for loyalty also offer income - including in the form of wives and dowries - to many warlords, said Bruce Hoffman, a professor at Georgetown University who also advises the US government on terrorism and counterinsurgency strategy. “It is economics,’’ Hoffman said.
You mean, like, PAYING SOLDIERS that ENLIST in an ARMY, that kind of thing?
Or better yet, SEND PRIVATE ASSASSINS to do the JOB!
Related: Pakistan's SWAT Patrol
Occupation Iraq: Government Death Squads
The Boston Globe Bucks Up the CIA
The Boston Globe's Invisible Ink: Blackening Out Blackwater Assassins
Yeah, they are worldwide.
McChrystal’s assessment called for a “credible program to offer eligible insurgents reasonable incentives to stop fighting and return to normalcy, possibly including the provision of employment and protection.’’
F*** that! Let's just LEAVE and LET THEM FIGURE IT OUT!!!!
How about EMPLOYING SOME AMERICANS at HOME and PROTECTING US from the FALSE-FLAGGING FASCISTS running the place, 'eh?
Underneath, however, there is also simply a strong desire to repel foreign invaders, US officials believe, which may be harder to overcome. They are fighting “more out of xenophobia than Islamic fundamentalism,’’ said a defense official with access to the latest intelligence assessments on Afghanistan.
Oh, yeah, so NOW THEY ARE a BUNCH of INTOLERANT MUSLIM RACISTS!!!!
And the SHIT-SPEW NEVER ENDS from the MUSLIM-HATING, WAR-PROMOTING, Zionist s***-sheet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, readers, sorry. Waxing between tears and rage on this one!
What could be MORE RACIST than ANNIHILATING PEOPLE over a DAMNABLE LIE?
The good news, however, is that many of them may be enticed to come over to the other side, said Munoz.
Yeah, well, you know how I feel about that, readers.
F*** that s*** and STOP KILLING THEM!!
Time to COME HOME, America!!
You have been LIED TO by the WAR-PROFITEERING POLITICIANS, GOVERNMENT, and JEWPRESS!
“Foreigners have been playing the ‘great game’ for centuries in Afghanistan,’’ he said, citing the Persians, Russians, British, and other outside powers who enlisted the Afghan people to further their interests. “You need the Afghans to play. They have been only too willing to play - as long as they see a benefit for themselves.’’
Yeah, THEY ARE SELFISH!!
Yeah, LET THE ANGER FLOW because I'M SICK of MUSLIM-HATING ZIONIST PROPAGANDA and INSULTS passing as NEWS!!!!!!!!!
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Also related: U.S. Talking to Itself in Talks With Taliban
And, as promised (and what earns this post a life affirmation):
"Something of a catchall term for loosely affiliated insurgents without a singular command structure. Often, the Afghan government favors the phrase 'enemies of the state' (New York Times July 24, 2007)."
"The Taliban is growing and creating new alliances not because its sectarian religious practices have become popular, but because it is the only available umbrella for national liberation," says Pakistani historian and political commentator Tariq Ali. "As the British and the Soviets discovered to their cost in the preceding two centuries, Afghans never like being occupied."
Also see: Afghanistan's Other Government
And today, readers?
"More and more, people here look back to the era of harsh Taliban rule from 1996 to 2001, describing it as a time of security and peace."
Oh, oh, oh!!!! I'm so offended by the AmeriKan MSM and its bullshit!
Also see: How I Came to Love the Veil
And consider this:
"They sat in one girl’s home telling their story, their faces uncovered only because no man was present. But when Mohammed Matloob, the father of one of the girls, walked into the room, the other three quickly pulled their head scarves over their faces. His daughter, Nagina, 16, ordered him to leave the room, which he did, with a surprised shrug."
Aren't the children beautiful?
Tomas Munita for The New York Times Hameeda Sarfraz, in the dark burqa, teaches Islamic religious lessons to children in her village, about 50 miles north of Islamabad, Pakistan.
And one more thing:
"The U.S. government was well aware of the Taliban's reactionary program, yet it chose to back their rise to power in the mid-1990s. The creation of the Taliban was "actively encouraged by the ISI and the CIA," according to Selig Harrison, an expert on U.S. relations with Asia. "The United States encouraged Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to support the Taliban, certainly right up to their advance on Kabul," adds respected journalist Ahmed Rashid. When the Taliban took power, State Department spokesperson Glyn Davies said that he saw "nothing objectionable" in the Taliban's plans to impose strict Islamic law, and Senator Hank Brown, chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on the Near East and South Asia, welcomed the new regime: "The good part of what has happened is that one of the factions at last seems capable of developing a new government in Afghanistan." "The Taliban will probably develop like the Saudis. There will be Aramco [the consortium of oil companies that controlled Saudi oil], pipelines, an emir, no parliament and lots of Sharia law. We can live with that," said another U.S. diplomat in 1997."
No kidding?
Oh, that's a real kick to the lower groans, isn't it, ladies?
The TALIBAN was established under U.S. AUSPICES?
We can "LIVE WITH THAT?"
Well, I SURE CAN as long as the KILLING STOPS -- especially since (sorry) I NO LONGER BELIEVE the LIES PROMOTED by my WAR-MONGERING, MUSLIM-HATING, AGENDA-PUSHING AmeriKan PRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of course, it's a GOOD THING American missiles have "liberated you" from your ickey-pooh men and children!!
And there goes the old man again! Just not in the mood this morning I guess.
Fatima collect my tears even though I'm not a Muslim?
Posted by Rocker at 9:21 AM
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